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More collateral damage in the War on Drugs
It appears that in Columbus Georgia not following Law Enforcement orders
is an automatic death sentence. I know some of you are saying he got what
he deserved for not obeying orders.
For you, "Kiss my ass". It looks to me that more and more, the Law uses
the maximun force allowed rather than the amount of force neccesary.
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Update 16 January
Sheriff Ralph Johnson Statement on the Shooting of Kenneth Walker
(this post is available)
Update 20 January 2004:
The family responds
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Update
"Anunarmed 39-year-old Columbus man (
Kenneth B. Walker) was
fatally shot by a Muscogee County Sheriff's Deputy late Wednesday during a
drug investigation after authorities said the man failed to comply with
the deputy's commands."
Follow up
This picture sums up the attitude in some Law Enforcement offices.
Family still in the dark
Sheriff's Department offers little information
Fear of the law
Carver High School basketball coach, Warren Beaulah:
'We were tried and convicted'
The crack house
Before more of you decide I walk around with a permanent chip on my
shoulder, you should read
"Yes Sir, No Sir, Anything you say Sir". It sums up the way I dealt
with the Law over the years. I admit to getting a little more prickly with
age. But that comes with the steady erosion of our Liberties.
Update 17 Dec:
The GBI and
the FBI are handling it now. We'll just have to wait for the
investigation to be completed.
Update 17 Dec:Yep just what we need,
a
race baiter
Presidential candidate and civil rights leader Al Sharpton will visit
Columbus.
Update: 20 Dec
Kenneth B. Walker's shooting death by a supposedly highly trained member
of the the Special Response Team has drew outrage from across the racial
spectrum. Blacks are outraged that a unarmed black was killed while most
white's are just outraged a unarmed citizen was killed by the veteran
Muscogee County Sheriff's Deputy. I do know this. If it had been me who
killed an unarmed man or even, one of three teenagers armed with lawnmower
blades, they wouldn't even have to think twice about trying me for at
least manslaughter, if not murder.
Update 3 January 2004: The calls are growing stronger for
civilian oversight by black leaders, both elected and appointed
Update 6 January 2004: The
"We'll get our way or we'll tear things up" blacks are not waiting for
the results of the investigation and are calling for boycotts, the removal
of the sheriff, and less money for law enforcement till they win. The
cynic in me says that the call for the removal of the sheriff is a
political move aimed to benefit some future un-named black opponent more
than anything to do with this case in it's current state.
And, of course, we needed that racial healer, The Rev. Jesse Jackson
invited by Rainbow PUSH of Columbus president William B. Howell. The
trouble is that Columbus doesn't have pockets as deep as a major
corporation. It will all depend on the publicity value, if he shows or
not.
NAACP and National Action Network chapters are also working the situation.
Update:
7 January 2004
Update 16 January 2003:
Some are criticizing the GBI about the delay in releasing the results of
the investigation. It's kind of hard to investigate when
the 3 civilians and the Deputy aren't talking. I can understand the
deputy not talking, but I'm having trouble understanding why Mr. Walker's
friends haven't talked to the GBI.
Update:
Visit this forum to comment or speculate or.. on the Kenneth Walker
case
Comments
they need some of those rubber slugs or bean bags.
but i'm glad i'm not a cop.
Tough job, no doubt. But so many are into the ninja Special Forces
attitude. And they are backed by the "you must have been guilty of
something cause the police stopped you" people. Remember the pictures of
the police stopping cars while searching for the Snipers last year?
Dressed in ninja outfits. That's not policing, that's tactics for
controlling a conquered people.
Maybe, there is more to the story, but it don't look good. Especially
without a weapon.
Glad it wasn't me because as a concealed carry, I would have been armed
and the law would have used that fact to justify killing me.
I don't know what to say, Chuck. On one hand, I have no sympathy for a
suspect who doesn't co-operate. But that is tempered by my natural
American wariness of a police state.
Full disclosure: as you know, I work for a law-enforcement agency, but I
am not a certified officer. I am around cops all day long, and there are a
lot of 'em who are gung-ho to the point of stupidity. I will grant you
that a potential Gestapo would find willing recruits in this country.
But the vast majority of cops are just like you and me, when it comes to
politics and common sense. The difference is, any cop is bound and
determined to go home at the end of his shift. Anything that looks like a
him-or-me situation is hairy, and they are getting more frequent.
I wish I had an answer.
I agree, Stoney.The vast majority are a dedicated bunch. In my mind, this
is the fault of the War on Drugs and a quick trigger finger unless it was
an accedental discharge. But the story has shifted to much for that excuse
to be accepted in all quarters.
And, yes, I do think that race played a factor in the chain of events. On
both sides. I've often told 2 that if I had been black, I would have been
dead or in prison a long time ago. I don't tolerate mistreatment well. The
overall Black community has it's share of blame in this mess as well.
This is the same law agency which surrounded a church on Palm Sunday and
searched the churh during worship service for a church member who had an
outstanding traffick citation.... The head of this department is a
certified a--hole, and now he is desparate to reach out to the
african-american community because he knows his policies have created a
true police state, and now he is afraid....
I hope the "black leaders" don't run off the whites in their rightious
indignation. To many are already trying to turn it into a black-white
thing
There are whites, like me, who are just as outraged. Color not mattering.
Some of the talk is becoming quite heated.
This shouldn't be a race issue, unless the murder is a bigot, and if he is
that mean people within the agency knew it. Law enforcers aren't above god
or above the law. Cops [all agencies] protect their own, so who's going to
protect the citizens. It's alway aggressiveness, now its no following
orders. It's only the three passengers that survived, the shooter, and the
other cops on the scene [the shooter's protection], and GOD, knows what
went on. It's been over a month, as far as the investigation, with top
lawenforcement agencies, but the public don't have that right to know
details about the case. Come on
Georgia, lets be fair and uphold the law just like in the law books. At
least prove to America that we're not traveling backwards, and race was
not cause, so race won't become the issues. I want to visit my family
living in Columbus, GA, without my life or my family lifes being on
deathrow on the highways or streets. We the people of the United States
can't spank our kids for not obeying, but a cop can shoot a citizen for
not obeying. Something wrong here people!
What? Another
unarmed-professional-never-had-a-record-upstanding-honest-black family man
shot and killed by a (law-upholding-perfect record) officer? This can't
be! Not in the good ole US of A. Especially not in one of our southern
good-ole-boy states! Noooo! This is clearly an isolated incident. Such and
awesome perfect- record-holding-weeeellll-trained veteran officer chose
the only, and don't forget best, possible option he had.
..........................
"You People" always want to make this a race "thing". What's wrong with
you? Don't you see that white people are being beaten every
week...hell...everyday by law enforcement officers. As a matter of fact
I've even heard that Kenneth Walker and friends are actually white. "You
People" are just trying to draw the attention to yourselves as usual, to
have something to complain about!
THE REAL DEAL!!!!...................
Oh, how tired I am of these same lame excuses and so-called
investigations. I already know the outcome of this one like the thousands
of other ISOLATED incidents .....NOTHING an NO JUSTICE!!
Why has this case not made national news? Or did I miss it?
We kick your ass? I thought it was to protect and serve. That is alot of
BS.
"On one hand, I have no sympathy for a suspect who doesn't co-operate."
I have sympathy for any murder victim, regardless of their circumstances.
Your comment is akin to saying that "I have no sympathy for a rape victim
who was wearing a short skirt."
The bottom line is that the police relied on an informant most likely
trying to work out a good deal for himself, and who had every reason to
lie. Then relying on the dubious word of the informant, the Yukon was
stopped and its occupants detained. This stop resulted in a murder, for
which the killer (if found guilty) should be put to death. I am appalled
that the killer is free to walk the streets, leave of absence or not. He
is a danger to society (as evidenced by the fact that he shot a
defenceless human being in the head)and should not be given special breaks
because he is a policeman. If anything, his status should cause him to be
held to a higher standard.
Well, I hate to say it, but race is always an issue here in the United
Stated. I read an article in the Houston Chronicle about two weeks ago and
the bottom line was something like this...white teenager are six times
more likely to have sold drugs and three times more likely to have used
drugs than their black counterparts (high school seniors); however, most
(over 90%) of the convictions for drug related crimes are black men...I
hate to tell ya, but it is a race issue. I read another article that
stated that here in Texas, black men are met with force by police 100%
more times than our white counterparts. That's bad when we make up only
about 18% of the population. I hate to say it, but the cop will probably
get off free, because he is white and the victim is black. It has been
proven that even an offense caught on tape against a black man is still no
reason for convicting a cop.
Bottom line here is that minorities need to become educated voters and
active participants in our flawed judicial system. This is the only way to
foster fairness in this great bias land of the USA.
I am a retired LEO who worked in a Tactical Unit. It is a difficult job.
But it seems like something went real wrong! Without many facts it seems
like the Deputy more than likely had his finger on the trigger. He may
have stumbled or in the act of "pulling" the subject from the vehicle, he
cause a sympathetic nervous system response. In other words, if his finger
was on the trigger and he did n ot intentionally pull the trigger, in
pulling with one hand(say by pulling the citizen from the vehicle or if
her stumbled and grabbed something or someone to break his fall) he caused
the other hand to do the same action. This caused the weapon to discharge.
The problems, as I see them, are that the victim was shot in the forehead
and the weapon discharged twice. It is not likely that SNS response would
have caused the that. It must be noted, however, that the weapon was
alledged to be on full auto. If that is the case, departmental policy not
withstanding, it should not have been!
There is much information necessary to really make a clear decision about
culpability. We were not there and until all the facts are revealed we
won't know. Armchair quarterbacking and jumping to conclusions is harmful
to the family, the community and to the Department. Remember, this really
could have been an accidental shooting.
I truly understand the uproar. I am an African American who has been
subject to unsubstantiated car stops. I know how it feels to be on the
other end eventho' I carry a badge. I am careful and insightful. I have
shared this info with my sons and their friends and other family members.
Because I want them to survive. I am sure that this issue almost never
comes up in white american conversation but it probably should. They are
not immune because it doesn't happen as much to them as it does to
minorities. That is why I was happy to see that the entire community was
enraged about this incident. Public awareness is a necessary element.
Let's all try to exercise patience and pray for the coninued safety of our
communities and for those who put their lives on the line to ensure it.
To Mr Rick B - With indiviauls on the ground on their bellies, why would
the finger not be along side the trigger gaurd instead of resting on the
trigger? ( I am by no means an expert) If the likelyhood is an accidental
discharge (based on your description of potential events) then why have
you finger rest on the trigger if the risk of possibilities is so great.
Thank you.
Please pardon the grammatical errors.
How dangerous can one be when a policeman has a gun a few inches from his
face? Couldn't the policeman hit him across the head with the gun at that
point instead of shooting him in the forehead? Some whites are still
afraid of Black men. This deputy has no business on the street with a gun
if his answer to "a Black man NOT obeying ORDERS is to shoot him
twice-once through the forehead." Something is exceedingly wrong with that
picture. I weep for all Black men all across the USA who think they have
arrived and find that as much as things have changed, the more the are the
same. Let's not stay complacent; let's fight for the freedom that is
ours--the same freedom as the white man. Here, your President is offering
freedom to illegal aliens when we cannot drive down the streets of America
without being treathened with guns by those who we hire to "protect and
serve," not to "kick ass."
Before I start my heart goes out for the Walker family it is a very bad
situation. I have a big problem with both sides of the story! I have been
keeping up with all the articles on this site. I think it is a very big
injustice by the police task force!!! We all know that a big cover up is
in progress!!!! (etc: the video tape). We all know the out come. The
police officer will have a desk job and the Walker family will be
compensated. They (police) use the stall tactic till everything settles
down and time passes. I have read the report from the sheriff on this
site.Don`t know how true to form it is but did Mr Walker know Darrell
Jackson and Thomas Randall?
Is it the SUV that Mr Walker was in really at the apartment of Darrell
Jackson and Thomas Randall? The report claims the SUV left and came back?
That also the left rear passanger had a plastic bag when he went up to
Darrell Jackson and Thomas Randall apartment. The lawyer for the passanger
said" it was a DVD player". Then the other 3 passangers went up stairs for
about 15 minutes. Then return to the SUV to leave. Is there a video tape
of this taking place? Something is not right. The problem I have here is
did the police lose track of the SUV during this sting and then found the
SUV of the same color Mr Walker was in? I wish 1 of the passangers would
come online and be VERY HONEST of what happen at the complex. If they knew
Darrell Jackson and Thomas Randall where drug dealers? What was the
purpose of leaving and coming back to the apartment of Darrell Jackson and
Thomas Randall? Was Mr Walker just along for the ride having no idea what
Darrell Jackson and Thomas Randall were drug dealers?I don`t know the ages
of the other 3 passengers but I have a problem with 39 yr old grown
married man with a 3 yr old daughter at home and he is rolling with his
boys on a Wednesday nite to return a DVD player!!!!! Something is not
right. When I 1st heard the story I thought it was just a random drug
check of a SUV on a Highway that went bad. They do alot of racial
profiling here in Texas and Louisiana!! I have a 21yr old son. I tell him
always think of your surroundings and who your friends you choose to be
with!!! If you know 1 of your friends are on the DL
need to let it go!!!! Don`t allow yourself to be put into a bad situation.
I`m just going by what I have read in the police report by the sheriff.
Please the other 3 passangers of the SUV come correct about the purpose of
having to go to Darrell Jackson and Thomas Randall apartment that nite!!!
If not for the public do it for the Walker family!!! They should at least
know!!!
I agree with Very Confused. Where is the surveillance tape of the
apartment complex...lost along with the videotape from the patrol car?
Wouldn't a surveillance tape or at least still pictures be needed to prove
their case in court? A close up of a license plate, pictures of the people
entering and exiting the premises...I'm no detective, but if I was
gathering evidence to have someone arrested, I would think that more than
my memory and my word would be required. Bottom line, there was probaly
some reason other than the delivery of a CD player that put Mr. Walker and
his friends in the midst of a bad situation, but the fatal shooting of an
unarmed man can't ever be justified.
I'm an American citizen and right now I live in Spain. There isn’t a lot
of this type of mess here. These occurrences where people are getting
killed by police officers without reasonable cause are getting seriously
out of hand. Talk about a "War on Terror." There is reality for black men
of being stopped by police and getting killed. What kind of life is this?
It is true that white families don't have to experience this sort of
injustice as we do. There are no cases in the news in which four white
males are pulled over by a task force, made up of all black men, and one
of the white males is killed. The truth is, there is fear. This fear is
foundational in what is going on in the American society. America still
fears the potential of a black male. ONE BLACK MALE! It fears worse a
Black MAN! A Black man in the white house would change everything the
country has ever known. A task force made up of black men would require
white people to call upon the help of Black people. I guess the most
appalling thought is that we aren't sure whether a Black president, or an
all Black task force will ever really exist. We've been in a position of
calling upon task forces made up of all white racists with itchy trigger
fingers for so long that we are comfortable with it and essentially don't
have the resources available in power areas, i.e. political offices,
judgeships, sheriffs, when we need someone to call upon. We aren't going
to be given anything we don't know how to get. We have to learn that we
deserve all that this country has to offer and we'll learn to take it if
it isn't automatically given. Many of us refuse to enlist in the US
Military, Police offices, Political offices and the like because, "there
are hardly any blacks in those positions." There is change in the wind,
all we need to do is reach out and apprehend it just as we have been
apprehended and still are apprehended in this unjust society. As much as
we want society to change, we must also change. Our recognition is our
stepping-stone. We are being recognized for our achievements as business
executives, owners, political figures, and more. The time is coming in
which our recognition will have fulfilled its due. In turn, we must not
see it as an opportunity to become more than our fellow nation men, or
else we might as well pretend they possess weapons of mass destruction and
begin the war today. All the killing might have to go down in the record
books as being just more needless death of innocent men, sick but a
potential reality. Imagine the future. How will we be seen by our
descendents 100 years from now? Will they view us as the Native American
Warriors who physically fought, almost to extinction for something they
believed in? We must fight, but we must fight with our resources. There is
a national call to infiltrate all aspects of society that are typically
seen as “White” institutions. This is our time for claiming reparations.
This is our form of reparations. It won’t be given to us. Apply to Yale,
Harvard, Howard, Cal. Berkeley, USC, Stanford, or Princeton. Obtain jobs
in the US Military, local police stations, or work to gain political
office. Be what you believe that position requires, and make this country
and world a better place. Become that task force member standing behind
the MP5, or even better that sheriff who makes the final call or decides
what investigation information is released to the public, make that
decision under the pressure of the moment. Implement plans with in your
unit to better deal with what you know (our people). This is a solution,
and with this solution we cancel out the possibility of these killings
being racially motivated. People ask where are the leaders of today, where
are the Malcolm Xs, where are the Martins, where are the Ali’s. We are the
leaders of a new generation. We are. We’re not one, but many. The media
pokes statistics at our race and the trouble we have with overcoming black
on black crime, but let it be realized. We are people coming together for
common goals, most importantly, the essence of these goals: Equality!
feb.04
A O S A
It is a mess. Like someone else previously said, race is still a big
player in America. No wonder people in the Eastern hemisphere hate
Americans. We cannot even get along with each other. We put ourselves up
so high and look down on others.
You can see evidence of American intelligence by the people we voted for
to run our government.
My prayers and sympathy go out to the Walker family. This country is
really screwed up. The lack of regard for human life and equality still
exists and is very hurtful to me. This is not what God intended. He gave
us free will to make decisions and choices and it is up to us to make the
right decisions and choices, afterall, we are the ones who have to deal
with the consequences at some point in our lives. Justice most likely will
not be served to the police officer who used excessive force in the Walker
case, but you best believe that he will live some form of HELL in his life
be it now or thru his own death. We all must pay for our sins as it is
written in the Bible. In my 38 years of life I have drawn one conclusion
that no MAN is physically or mentally capable of running this country,
this world or this earth. As humans we are imperfect and some are just
down right hateful and into selfish gain, as the current U.S.
adminstration. I am an African-American female who happens to be proud of
being born of this decent. We as a people are true survivors because we
know and have known nothing but struggle and obstacles thru out our
existence. If each and everyone of us viewed these struggles postively we
would understand that it is those struggles that allow for strength and
character and helps us to withstand and handle adversities of any kind. My
only saddness today is that most of us do not see this instead a lot of us
go on tearing down and killing one another along with the race haters to
the brink of extinction. If we all would take that same negative energy
toward one another and band together positively we could be awesome. That
is the kind of energy that would solve world domination problems, conquer
all hatred, and build a better society. I hope we take this horrible event
(the Walker case) and find the positive in it to aid in our continuing
struggle to do what is morally right and get others to do what is morally
right by us and all who share this country, otherwise we will end up
living like third world countries where survival on a daily basis is the
name of the game. Can anyone feel my PAIN?
That could've been me or you in that SUV. Change the town name to anywere
usa. There has been a war on us for the last 3 decades. It started when we
started to move into the inner cities. Rolling 4 deep in the inner city
has always been a sure way of getting pulled over. I'm 46 years old and I
grew up in Chicago. My most recent altercation with law enforcement was
only 2 years ago. I was alone driving near a strip mall and got pulled
over. Why? cuz I'm a brother, a black man. Cooperation is the key when
getting stopped by "The man". If he says raise your hands, you try to
touch the sky. If he say's don't move, then freeze in your footsteps, and
most importantly if he says' Shut the f%#& up, then don't say a word. If
you rollin with a homie who is with another homie, in a Land Rover with
the high profile rims and such, you pretty much can bet you are going to
get pulled over and pray that every one else cooperates. Kenny B. Walker
was many of us, clean cut, educated, responsible brother in the wrong
place at the wrong time. God rest another black mans soul. He's in a
better place than Columbus Georgia.
First of all my prayers go out to the entire Walker family. I only knew
Kenny casually. He seemed to be a good man. I also had the privilege of
working with his wife, Cheryl, years ago. She's a wonderful person and a
very strong sister. When asked by the media if she thought this was a
racial issue, Mrs. Walker responded that she didn't think four white men
would've been pulled from their car and treated like these brothers. I
would have to agree with her. No one should ever have to endure this kind
of tragedy.
I've lived in Columbus for most of my life. I am a 38 year black husband
and father. I travel that same stretch of interstate almost everyday.
Every time I pass the spot where this shooting took place, I realize that
it could have just as easily happened to me. I feel you "Could of been
me".
"Very Confused", you seemed to imply that by going out with friends, he
was somehow neglecting his family. I don't think that was the case at all.
Your subtle implication was unfair. It's been reported that these
gentlemen had a tradition of going out for dinner and drinks on Wednesday
nights. Most of the people I've talked with say he was a good husband and
father. He spent a lot of time with his family. I've also heard that his
daughter went almost everywhere with him.
Most of the people I've talked with (black and white), are shocked this
happened here. Sure we have our share of problems, but for the most part,
Columbus is a nice place to live. It's a progressive southern city. There
are minorities in leadership roles in local government and business. The
appointed chief of police is a brother. The publicly elected Sheriff is
white. I think he has done a decent job until now. I have several friends
who are deputies in his department. He dropped the ball on this one. It's
been more than two months and the Walker family still does not know
exactly what happened. The GBI and FBI are conducting investigations. The
GBI's report is supposed to be forwarded to the local District Attorney on
Feb.20.
Let's pray that justice is served.
The truth of the matter is that we would like to believe that in this day
and age it wouldn't be a matter of race, however, this day and age has
only changed the names. Say what you will, statistically had the occupants
of that Yukon been white they would have looked like they were entitled to
be in that vehicle and would not have been stopped on any highway,
whatever reports had been made. My husband is a 6'4" very slim black man
on his way to work one morning and the police were supposedly looking for
a black man wearing a sweat shirt and running shoes about 5'5" suspected
of robbing a little store, they detained and searched him inspite of the
fact that he was wearing a $450.00 black suit and tie with very nice
$200.00 black leather shoes and a brief case not even five minutes after
the robbery, and what did they say to him, you fit the description of a
suspect that we just got on the radio.
I am a 6'4", educated, professional, articulate, well-dressed African
American male and I just happen to drive
an expresive, black SUV. With all of this going for me, you would think
that I should not have a care in the world. However, it is because of
these attributes that I harbor a fear that I could be subjected to the
same fate as Mr. Kenneth Walker. Are all races of man in this country
prone to this type of psychological baggage? I think not! Think about
it.....Maybe we should all file a class action suit against the symbols of
our society that help to perpetuate such damage to our psyche.
I think he is a fat bull headed racist who needs to get his ugly fucked up
ass locked up in jail. then he should be cut in half with a chainsaw.
"hey, deputy, i'm looking for you,cause once i find you, you're dead."
Kenneth i aggre with you, lets team up. I've got a very effective chain
saw. I'm also a very educated, college degree acquited doctor. "Deputy,
i've got my eyes on you also, just like Kenneth."
but i'm glad i'm not a cop.